vote. They should bring arguments forward and set forth their views and leave it up to the people to make up their minds.’
I countered that most radicals and political opposition groups were operating underground, because they were banned by the government, so how could they possibly go on the campaign trail? ‘At the moment they can't. That is correct. But the reason they can't is that they apply terrorist tactics and are waging a so-called armed struggle. And they pose, especially in the way their policies are presented overseas, as the great defenders of democracy. But in reality, the opponents of township elections force their ways by threatening and molesting people. They claim to be the great defenders of the “one man, one vote” system, but in reality they do not tolerate any opinion but their own. Their ultimate aim is to silence and kill their most popular and eloquent opponents, to make the townships ungovernable through violence and terror If a township election could be held in true and real freedom, without intimidation and violence, we would witness miracles. The radicals would be in the minority, that's all.’
I played the devil's advocate by suggesting that they were painting a too-rosy picture as to the majority views of township blacks They seemed incensed at the mere suggestion. ‘We have been in politics for many years,’ they said. ‘No outside person can come and tell us what is going on in the townships. We know what is happening there. We were born and brought up in this country. We know what is going on at all levels of society. We know why certain things can or cannot be done. In South Africa today, you must be first of all political realists. That's important to realise first. Don't try to be a smart politician and try to please this person or that person. You can't. You must be a political realist in this country. One must understand the situation as it is. We were there. We are here. Therefore, no man can come and tell us what is happening in South Africa today. We know the game A to Z. We also know our politics.’