The Heart
Reporter:
Een nog betrekkelijk jonge Maleier, is op dit moment te gast in Nederland en heeft hier binnen een week een duizendtal vrienden, aanhangers en fanaten gekweekt. Pete's Children, Kinderen van Piet, noemen zij zich, en zij zien Pete Lofthouse als hun geestelijke leider. De leer van Lofthouse is een mengsel van de filosofieën van Krishnamurti, Erich Fromm, Norbert Wiener en Sri Baba: de simpelheid zelf dus.
We praten met Pete Lofthouse in de heerlijke tuinen van de Erasmus-Stichting achter de rolschaatsbaan.
Mister Lofthouse: what is your theory in general?
Pete:
Everyone has a heart.
Reporter:
Mmmm.
Pete:
You, me, all the people.
Reporter:
And what about that heart?
Pete:
That heart must be within you.
Reporter:
I see.
Pete:
For when the heart is not within you - then it is without you.
Reporter:
Ah! Yes!
Pete:
When it is without you - then you are without a heart.
Reporter:
But there IS still a heart?
Pete:
Difficult question. IS there a heart, when you live withóut a heart?
Reporter:
Mmmm.
Pete:
Yes. But it is not a heart within you.
Reporter:
Where is the heart thèn?
Pete:
This heart, the heart that is not within you, the heart you are without, can be everywhere.
Reporter:
Everywhere?
Pete:
Yes. Because it is without me. And out me is everything.
So the heart can be anywhere.
Reporter:
Can my heart be, let us say...in the kitchen?
Pete:
Yes. Because your heart is, where your interest is. You are interested in food - than a part of your heart is in the kitchen. But the kitchen itsèlf...has no heart.
Reporter:
And...when l'm interested in money?
Pete:
Then you put a part of your heart in the money. But money itsèlf, has no heart.
Reporter:
So what, mister Lofthouse, is your advice for a better living?
Pete:
Try to keep your heart within you. And always look first at your left, when you cross the road!
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